Jugendsinfonieorchester at Helle Mitte
Excerpt of performance of Jugendsinfonieorchester Marzahn-Hellersdorf in Helle Mitte, Sept.2, 2013 in juggly Hendycam-Reelmode
In a comment concerning the voting system in Syria (I recently got again a bit interested in voting systems, maybe more later) it was mentioned that there were some problems with certain german groups which were against the set-up of a refugee home in my neighbourhood, which is intended to shelter also Syrians. The image in the above linked article by Deutsche Welle shows the square Alice-Salomon-Platz in Helle Mitte, Hellersdorf, Berlin. It should be mentioned that there are also nicer events at that square.
Like the company Wohntheke, which represents several real estate companies, which offer rentals in Marzahn-Hellersdorf had organized last sunday a party in the park adjacent to the square and engaged the Jugendsinfonieorchester Marzahn-Hellersdorf (see also randform post here and here) which belongs to the music school Marzahn-Hellersdorf to play there.
Thanks to the strong men who helped director Jobst Liebrecht to carry the heavy Timpanis back to the building!
related: Soheil Nasseri is giving tonight a solo piano concert in New York.
September 11th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
I think you shouldn’t be too concerned about political extremism. In fact
in the new study Replication data for: Political Depolarization in German Public Opinion, 1980–2010 at the PRSM Dataverse it is said that
September 11th, 2013 at 5:21 pm
Yeah MOVE TO THE MUSTOPP!
September 12th, 2013 at 10:22 am
I really appreciate these efforts to bring the socalled “high culture” to the people. However classical music is a rather elitistic culture. That is classical music may eventually be a way to meet the cultural needs of a small upper class, but alone the statistics show: the broad population prefers pop music or Schlagers. It may however be interesting to lure the elite to Hellersdorf like in order to draw attention onto serious deficits in urban planning. Like I heard that Helle Mitte has difficulties in renting out all that shop area?
September 17th, 2013 at 5:14 pm
Ich seh den Vorschlag mit den Luftballons nicht ganz so kritisch wie Du Nad. Schliesslich wenn man die Technik richtig macht sind das ja nur Luftballons. Das ist so wie bei Nena’s 99 Luftballons – da kann doch nun wirklich nicht mehr viel passieren.
December 7th, 2014 at 8:07 pm
people just need some workout – that would make them cool down –
Mens sana in corpore sano. Isn’t there a big pool which almost looks like this at Helle Weigla Square ?
December 8th, 2014 at 11:01 am
Helle Mitte is a kind of quarter and one major square there is as Nad said called Alice-Salomon-Platz (Platz is the german word for square). The other big square in Helle Mitte is Fritz-Lang-Square. But there is a square called Helene-Weigel-Platz in a sort of nearby quarter in Marzahn.
There is a pool within a private Gym called elixia nearby Alice Salomon Platz, and there is a bigger public pool called “Helmut Behrendt” nearby Helene-Weigel-Platz. Is this one of these pools you had in mind?
December 12th, 2014 at 9:52 am
Aren’t there plans to abandon the Helmut Behrendt Pool, because it is uneconomically and to replace it with a Spassbad in the vicinity?
July 21st, 2015 at 8:27 am
Gateways for parking garages are often too small (like for SUV’s) that might be a reason.
Getting rid of narrow garages and installing an up-front-plus parking concept might be a solution to the Hellersdorf problem.
July 22nd, 2015 at 10:02 am
Karin B. wrote:
I think the shop problem in Helle Mitte has various reasons and I didn’t get the impression that parking is currently a major problem there. It seems more a mixture of facts like that a population which has not a high income is living around there, that there is big competition from Berlins City center (which is just about halfanhour train ride from Helle Mitte) and that the whole complex is pretty faceless and not overly great architecture (It’s not bad, but it’s also not great). As far as I understood there are currently plans to lure more better-income inhabitants into the quarter by building new appartment blocks in between the old blocks. I have my doubts that this strategy would make Helle Mitte much more into a (shopping) center. If there is no direct need then people go to places, because there is something interesting, inspiring etc.
I do think that Marzahn-Hellerdorf has some interesting places. Its interesting historical mix of old villages (partially reaching back to medieval times), old pastoral settings, manors and utopian socialistic buildings is rather unique. Unfortunately it seems those “unique selling points” are currently rather eliminated than carved out. I already mentioned the cinema Sojus, which is probably going to be eliminated for a food discounter. And there are currently local news reports and unclear public announcements from the corresponding developping companies that an over 100 year old restaurant is eventually going to be torn down.
It is also not that “richer” inhabitants automatically “enrich” a living quarter. For example there had been some frail initiatives here in Marzahn, like for example some artists from Kunsthaus Tacheles had moved to a rather abandoned area in Marzahn.
But now they have been massively building homes for betting income inhabitants around that area which (that is my current impression) are rather stiffling to the further creative development of that place, because the culture clash seems too big. That is the new inhabitants (although they knew what was there when settling there) complained about loud music etc.
Tee ä Error wrote:
Well that study uses data until 2010 and things may change fast if it comes to public opinion. Besides the above mentioned refugee home there has meanwhile been built an additional new refugee home in Marzahn-Hellersdorf which is discussed controversially.
I got though the (very subjective) impression that first rather people, which from the onset on seemed to be more tolerant start to be increasingly reserved, that is I have increasingly discussions with “normal” people here, where I need to highlight that those refugees are mostly from areas with war and terror and not “Wohlstandsparasiten” (“welfare parasites”). I do have the feeling that the athmosphere changed and in particular that – secondly – this maybe increasingly been less openly shown.
It seems if segregation gets stronger then the actual “type” of people around you may play a bigger role.
July 22nd, 2015 at 9:46 pm
But if there are more people with money then there will be more shops which offer more what you call “interesting” things.
July 24th, 2015 at 7:45 am
It is good that you try to convince Nazi’s that they should stop their wrongdoings.
July 25th, 2015 at 7:47 am
Yes – the athmossphere changes, like just yesterday
Neonazi’s initiated bloody fights against a tent camp in Dresden for asylum seekers and there were anymore only 350 pro-asylum-seeker-protestors against 200 Neonazi’s.
July 30th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
I hope you didn’t mean what you were writing here! Sofar I had perceived this blog as well-balanced and socially aware with an inclination to innovative approaches to discursive analysis. If you write “most refugees are not welfare parasites” (emphasis on “most”, which suggests that the others are!) then this is in my point of view a descent beyond bar room level. And I do think that this crosses a line, where – if you don’t provide a clear rectification – will loose “most” of your open-minded and culturally diverse readers!
July 30th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Ey Dr. Eier – dit is ja nun voll die scheisslaberei. Ey guck dir mal an wie die RUMSITZEN!
July 30th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Ede Du Hirnboulette – wie solln Dr. Eierchen der Obasesslpupa dit mit dem RUMSITZEN übahaupt kapiern können?
August 25th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Karin B. wrote:
This might be. But I think it also might not. I wrote that I have doubts that building new appartment blocks in between the old blocks would make Helle Mitte much more into a (shopping) center, because I think alone just to do so is quite not sufficient. That is I think there are much more things which have to be thought about. In particular a lot will depend on how the new buildings are perceived from the outside, how the new buidlings eventually obstruct old living spaces etc. and last but not least one should also think about the role of perspective shopping centers in times of Internet delivery.
January 29th, 2016 at 12:05 pm
It seems the Pro Germany Citizens Movement” is currently doing a collection of signatures for a new outdoor swimming pool in Marzahn. Is that correct? Aren’t there any outdoor swimming possibilities in Marzahn Hellersdorf ? I mean it is a rather densely populated space isn’t it?
January 29th, 2016 at 12:40 pm
Yes. As far as I can tell they are collecting signatures for a “Freibad”.
The idea for a “Spassbad” was abandonned.
As far as I can tell the only outdoor swimming possibility in Marzahn is the socalled Biesdorfer Baggersee (querry pond of Biesdorf) . But as far as I know it is not an “official” swimming pond due to the bad water quality. By my own swimming experience there I can only say one should be prepared for rashes and dog bites. Nonetheless in summer it is usually quite (over)crowded.
April 28th, 2016 at 9:34 pm
Ok. So the rumors were right. How did you know?
April 28th, 2016 at 9:41 pm
Some of the campaigners asked me to sign and I talked to him and explained him that I won’t sign, because I found his party scary. He tried to convince me that I don’t need to be scared.
But there is now also a report about it in Berliner Woche. The referendum which comes with the campaign might cost the district probably 250000 Euro according to Berliner Woche.
I felt actually quite uneasy about that Spassbad (“funpool”) suggestion that is I am not fully sure, but I think the Spassbadplan could have meant getting an outdoor and indoor pool quite right next to a big highway. Plus I dont know what that would have meant for the pool at Helene Weigel Platz, where you can actually swim (in swim lanes), something that is not always possible in a Spassbad.
June 16th, 2019 at 1:09 pm
I wrote:
Since Schwimmhalle Helene-Weigel-Platz is currently closed for renovation until November the only official public swimming location in all of Marzahn-Hellerdorf (about 270.000 inhabitants) is as far as I know Schwimmhalle Kaulsdorf.
I would like to add that in a Marzahn-Hellersdorf swimming location such as a “Schwimmhalle” you should also be prepared for bruises, but at least there is no shit swimming in front of you like it may happen at the unofficial locations. It is though advisable to bring -next to your swim suit or trousers- some flip-flops.
But yes as -as mentioned above by Touristenauskunft” there are eventually some publicly accessable private pools like that by Touristenauskunft mentioned Elixia (cllub membership though). Next to Elixia- I sofar know only about sauna-idyll-biesdorf .